How to Grow a Product

The company has been working with security conferences like DEF CON, you know, Loco MOCO SEC is what we're working with right now. Many of those people also really believe in privacy and owning their own data. And so I think in this product like growth, it was like a lot of tuning in the first eight months to kind of get ideological clarity from these people. Now it's kind of picked up a lot in more sustainable.