The Dangers of Surveilling Speech and Conduct

Sarah Haggie, co-host of Wondery's podcast Scamplencers, unpack the stories of notorious scammers and con artists all over the globe. Follow Lou Perlman's rise from aerospace entrepreneur to boy band mogul to architect of one of the largest Ponzi schemes in history. We'll be right back with a great Daniel Lithwick on John Roberts' refusal to testify at an ethics hearing for Supreme Court Justice Thomas.