I See Dumb People
The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg
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The MAGA Industrial Complex and the Alinskyite Tactic of Donald Trump
John Avlon: The way we talk about these things is that we're supposed to have our takes for the day. And I find the whole thing just utterly depressing, but that's actually not the point I was trying to get at. He says Trump brought out the worst in his enemies and then their excesses serve as a sort of political justification for Trump's excesses.Avlon: This loss of faith and trust in institutions, it's kind of turtles? It's like we are going all the way down this road.
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