I was a very enthusiastic poker player during the time. When poker wasn't like cool. This is like pre-internet poker. I became obsessed with that. And so one of the things once they had internet poker,  one of the things that I would show people as a metaphor for this was the most popular game today is what's called Texas. Each window you opened was a form of optionality that allowed you to wait for the so-called fat pitch. So no matter what happens, they're always in a position to play offense.

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