005 Charlie Awbery
with Jared Janes
A Different Frame, a Different View Can Give You a Different Lightness
"We both know that we're completely intolerable in many ways, right? So there's a sense in which a different frame, a different view can give you a kind of lightness with all the aspects of yourself," she says. "It was not a good experience for people around at all at that time."
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