"I probably work fewer hours, even now in this job," she says. "Because I work effectively from eight to five thirty." She's a morning person but not an evening person: "My level of productivity starts dipping greatly" After the 2012 recession, Obama changed how he spent his time and energy.
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Command Sergeant Major JoAnn Naumann shares her powerful story of coming to the realization that something wasn't right internally and if she wanted to lead others, she needed to begin with herself. Joe and JoAnn discuss stigmas with asking for help, the importance of habits and rituals, and setting professional boundaries.