When was the last time that we had such a slow moving, swampy ocean, without the circulation type that we have now? Well, the last most devastating time is actually during the jerassic. We're right back at p e t m times, which was 55 million years ago. I don't think anyone knows what's going to happen to climb it, or what the eventual c o two levels will be. As you know, i am sceptical of the fossil fuel availability. A lot of the a coal and natural gas and oil that exists will be energetically remote,. and we won't be able to access it. But i'll come back to that in a minute.

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