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22: Ukrainian Ideas in the 21st Century

The Making of Modern Ukraine

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Is History About the People?

The idea that history is about the people is attractive, right? But if you push it to an extreme, that makes history just about the ethnicity and it becomes ethnic nationalism. Then there's a counter argument which says, no, the people are defined by action. The nation is a daily plebiscite. And so it doesn't matter whether they're Jews or Germans or Poles or whatever, it's about participation, cooperation and things like this. That's the political nation. If you push that all the way to this extreme, then everything is politics. So, this is where there begins in Ukraine, but not just in Ukraine, it's just Ukraine's a very interesting and clear

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