Relationship With the Lord

" relation with the lord, and in taking on his mind and heart is really where it all begins," he says. "The saints almost that when you read a saint like teresa of avila, or some one else, it's like a mamma bird who's eaten the food and now regurgetates it for you." He adds: 'You can just sort of really understand the scriptures how you ought to understand them without your worldly lens'