The Role of an Activist in the Retirement System

I love the term activist because oftentimes Ashby, I say to myself and anybody that cares to listen, where's the client's lobbyist? And they need one because these are big pools of assets, but ultimately it's an individual on the other end. Now that we have sort of collapsed down in many parts of the world, the DB system, now all of it is on me. So we need to have an activist that's speaking on behalf of both the DB plan and better outcomes for DC.