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The Axe Files with David Axelrod

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Is There a Difference Between a President and a Secretary of State?

With president byden, it's very different. You're cot ot on the journey with him. He is always tt, pushing and testing,. wheether we're speaking about things in an accessible way. If we joke about how he hates aprnums, it drives himweno crazy. And so i've had many moments with him that have actually been very recentering for me. I mean, i think it's so personal. Staffing people, presidents, obviously, secretaries of state, moving us. They're looking for different things from you, from their staff. Adapt to what their needs are. I'm working for them, right? In the same way.

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