Dad: I think that often when this repression occurs of one kind or another, you were talking about having these urges and desires but you push them down inside of yourself because you didn't want to deal with them. So there's emotional release work. There's a lot around art therapy or creative expression kinds of therapy where people will do things like with their non-dominant hand. Do you have any other ideas or any other recommendations for what somebody could do? Maybe if they can't work with a clinician for whatever reason to get into that beneath the water line territory? Dad: Yeah, well here too to name it and then kind of move on from it,. I mean that's

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