A lot of these subsidies that are in place are off the back of lobbying and receiving donations or dark money, as you mentioned earlier. Is that why these subsidies exist despite the environmental damage that these industries are causing? Yeah, I mean, it's capture. We've seen the capture of governments, the capture of political systems by a small number of industries. Why aren't we revolting against this? And especially when we know from these great examples of participatory democracy, for instance, how we could do things so much better.

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