Experimentation as a coaching mindset

Today’s guest is Quintin Torres, a strength and performance coach specializing in Marinovich/Heus inspired training methods. With a background in martial arts, Quintin focuses on movement quality, coordination, and individualized methods that help athletes build strength that truly transfers to sport. So often in athletic development, it is only the “hard” or easily quantifiable qualities that we look to develop. Although these are vital, sport itself (even output sports) live “in between the cracks” of maximal outputs, and then movement quality. Training rarely looks to infuse a full spectrum of athletic qualities, yet programming such as that put forth by Marv Marinovich years ago, does capture many of these dynamics. On today’s show, Quintin and I explore the Marinovich nervous system training philosophy, contrasting “soft” qualities like reactivity, rhythm, coordination, and perception with traditional hard metrics such as max strength. We discuss why MMA has embraced these methods, the limits of barbell-centric programming, and the importance of observation, experimentation, and individualized coaching. The conversation emphasizes training transfer to sport, creativity, and maintaining athlete adaptability, longevity, and engagement beyond chasing isolated numbers. Today’s episode is brought to you by Hammer Strength and the Just Fly Sports Online Courses Use code “justfly10” for 10% off the Vert Trainer Use code “justfly20” for 20% off of LILA Exogen Wearable resistance gear at www.lilateam.com View more podcast episodes at the podcast homepage. (https://www.just-fly-sports.com/podcast-home/) Timestamps 0:00 – Quintin’s background and entry into nervous system training 6:18 – Why Marinovich methods resonate in MMA 10:04 – Soft qualities versus hard qualities in performance 16:11 – Assessment driven training and athlete context 27:05 – One on one coaching versus group models 31:41 – Training quality, group size, and real world constraints 40:12 – Foot strength, barefoot work, and bottom up thinking 1:13:09 – Strength without compression and alternative tools 1:25:55 – Manual resistance and simple coaching tools 1:27:41 – Teaching, sharing, and coaching philosophy Actionable Takeaways Nervous system training priorities Train soft qualities like rhythm, timing, coordination, and fluidity with the same intent as maximal strength. Recognize that many performance qualities cannot be easily measured, but still decide outcomes in sport. Do not confuse testing well in the weight room with performing well in competition. Why MMA accelerates innovation High consequences in MMA force athletes and coaches to evaluate training effectiveness honestly. One on one competition allows clearer cause and effect between training and performance. Customization is easier when the athlete’s output is fully visible and isolated. Assessment over templates Let observable movement qualities guide training choices rather than fixed programs. Consider genetic tendencies such as stiffness, elasticity, and coordination when designing training. Adjust tools and methods to the athlete instead of forcing athletes into a system. Soft and hard qualities integration Maximal strength still matters, but it should not destroy elasticity or coordination. Avoid becoming overly concentric dominant and losing reactive qualities. Balance force production with tendon health and nervous system adaptability. Group training realities Large group settings limit how much individual correction is possible. Use simple movements and constraints when training many athletes at once. Accept logistical realities while still trying to preserve movement quality. Foot and ground based training Treat the foot as a strong and adaptable structure, not a fragile one. Use harder surfaces and direct loading to stimulate neural input from the ground up. Understand that the feet heavily influence the nervous system and movement outcomes. Alternative strength tools Use flywheels, isokinetic tools, and manual resistance to reduce compressive stress. Achieve high neural drive without excessive spinal loading. Match resistance dynamically to the athlete’s output. Manual resistance and coaching feel Hands and simple tools can outperform expensive machines in many cases. Manual resistance allows precise matching of effort and intent. Coaching feel and feedback are critical skills, not outdated practices. Quotes from Quintin Torres “The primary difference is we prioritize the development of soft qualities just as much as hard qualities.” “We do not need you better at training. We need you better at your sport.” “Barbell does not equal maximal strength. It is just one tool on the force velocity curve.” “As the quantity of athletes goes down, the quality of training can go up.” “Your feet are not fragile. They are designed to take abuse.” “There is no strength machine better than your own hands.” “A lot of what people call talent is just qualities we do not know how to measure yet.” “Results matter more when the consequences are real.” About Quintin Torres Quintin Torres is a strength and performance coach with a deep background in mixed martial arts and combat sports. A former competitive MMA athlete, he specializes in nervous system–driven training methods influenced by the Marinovich system, emphasizing reactivity, coordination, and movement quality alongside strength. Quintin works closely with fighters and athletes to individualize training based on biomechanics, perception, and sport demands, helping them build resilient, adaptable performance that transfers directly to competition.