Introduction

It is absolutely okay to want to get to the top of the mountain, whatever mountain you're climbing. It's that caring about accomplishing an external goal, more than you care about the journey and the process, that's bad. Check out our two most recent books, all about real toughness and resilience, and the practice of groundedness. If you like this podcast, you'll love those books. They're available anywhere books are sold or on CD if you roll with a CD player.