"I still just don't feel like vr in general is that well known people aren't that familiar with vr," he says. "To navigate even through the beginning menus of to tell someone how to do beat saber is a learning experience" i would probably argue 90 percent of the human population wouldn't think about doing any of this, but if they can it could change their lives and help them make more money. He thinks audio big thing there too if they can get into enterprise world.