i like to think that this influence propagates forward, but i do worry that i do not have a motivation for thinking that. But that ten the second event, and that was much later. So i was at post tockat cornal to know a man name robert wilson, who was an extraordinary man. And he became a director of famylab which was, at that period, neal, the biggest accelerator before we had the lh c and so on. He had to go through some rough times in congress being attacked for exactly this question. What has it got to do with the defence of this country? You know, it's coming from the department of energy

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