When we often talk about, say, the Maslow hierarchy of needs, this is about what do we absolutely need, but in order of priority. So have you developed such a hierarchy of the things that we're absolutely going to need? Yeah, so I started thinking about it. If I have a plan, that's okay, but we've got to put it in the arena and we've all got to discuss it, rip it apart and put it back together. So my plan becomes our plan. But I see this as the start of the conversation, not the actual solution.

Get the Snipd
podcast app

Unlock the knowledge in podcasts with the podcast player of the future.
App store bannerPlay store banner

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode

Save any
moment

Hear something you like? Tap your headphones to save it with AI-generated key takeaways

Share
& Export

Send highlights to Twitter, WhatsApp or export them to Notion, Readwise & more

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode