Putin was asked, how would he defeat the West? He said, I don't need to defeat the West. They'll defeat themselves. And what that comment shows you is interesting in the West being defeated. So are China and other places amongst in the world. Our response has made that issue life. It's kept it going. If you saw me and Putin doing what he's doing in the way in which he's doing, if he gets the outcome that he wants, will strengthen his position. The Belt and Brace thing, what it's called that China are doing now, that belt and Road, that is a really aggressive move. Short of military attack, that's the single

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