i don't really address the moral argument. I make p an epistemological argument. i think theism uniquely grounds belief in the reliability of the mind. As soon as i know that what i regard as moral, inviolate, moral principles are just something that were programmed into me to enhance either my survival or the survival of the group that i'm part of, a i don't really have a reason to continue to obey them if the moral principles cut against my survival, my survival interests in the moment. So, ah, anyway, it's a big discussion, but i'm glad we should continue.

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