There's a lot of structural reasons why things are conservative. And they conservative in the sense that they're going to hire people who are working in the areas that are sort of the shore things rather than the gambles. The Priminer Institute is one of the world's greatest physics institutes right now, but when it started out, it was much quirkier. It's a part of the life cycle of a physics department or institute. You have a plucky band of rebels and they kind of equilibrate and become more normal and traditional.

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