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The fight for Ukraine — and democracy

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

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Is There a Democracy in the Liberal Democracies?

Fachism is a child of democracy. It has only ever emerged out of democratic societies. The fight against it will require, i think, the abandonment of the very norms that sustain democracy in some way. There's actually nothing better that ukraine can offer russia than at this point. Men no overstating that. Is that wrong? Well, it involves being able to think in two ways at once. I have to be able to engage that, but remembering that it's not me, right? So it's notme when i'm resisting it. And also not me when i'm not resisting it. It's just not me.

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