The Impact of My Relationship to Rural Ireland

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"I find it um yeah like it makes sense actually I was in rural Ireland last year this old man it was that kind of weather even though again it was the summer and this old man was just like oh this weather is wonderful for your complexion no matter what color you are" "My relationship to Ireland was because my dad is Nigerian and because that was such an anomaly like when I was a small child in the 1980s and like a teenager in the 90s my sense of belonging there was very complicated"

Welcome to the Wintering Sessions with Katherine May.

Producer Note: You'll notice a slight change in Katherine's audio in the second half of the podcast. This is just due to a necessary 'source switch', where we had to change where her recording was coming from. Your ears will adjust very quickly but apologies for the ever so slight dip. Thank you!

This week Katherine talks to Emma Dabiri, author of Don’t Touch My Hair and What White People Can Do Next.

What begins as a conversation about Emma’s new-found commitment to appreciating all the seasons - not just summer - becomes something else entirely. Emma is one of our most agile thinkers and fearless speakers, and soon she is talking about everything from race and class to how we should think about the world right now. A thread of belonging runs through it all - how we seek and find it, how complicated our identities have become, and why it matters.

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