The idea is that there is a strong network effect of having all roll-ups share a common sequencer. As long as each roll-up has the governance to be able to decide whether or not to continue using the sequencer, then it has leverage in deciding whether to opt into, to a fair protocol. We want to minimize their kind of ability to extract rent from that monopoly. And so to some degree, I think there's this inherent trade-off, like I guess from like a venture style return portfolio where like, okay, if you want to be like a Google, how did you, like, what's going on? Like, well, you made like a network of

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