Sanya Renee Taylor: I think what's so interesting about that of everything you just said with the disciples of White patriarchy. And it made me think of Liz and how she used to tell me why you have such a problem with this 12 steps and because of the patriarchal ideas there. You have to create your higher power. She says when women are controlling themselves, what they are not doing is reaching their natural intelligence. When we cut off at the roots are natural intelligence, what grows in place of that is white supremacy. Because what is going to take that down is us unleashing our full power of liberation.