Navigating Political Identity and Future Ambitions

Former President Trump derided Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer as "the woman in Michigan," when the two publicly clashed in 2020 during the coronavirus pandemic.

A Detroit rapper once put out a song about her called "Big Gretch" praising her handling of the pandemic.

Whitmer's star soared during the pandemic with people being attracted to her human, pragmatic style.

These days she's a national co-chair of the Biden-Harris campaign while simultaneously being touted a possible replacement for Biden on the ticket. Whitmer herself says that's not happening.

As Democrats scramble to figure out a way forward this election year, Whitmer talks about her new memoir "True Gretch", and what the future may hold for both her and her party.

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