Josiah Hesse grew up in northern Iowa during the farm crisis of the 1980s, a moment of economic collapse, rising poverty, and quiet desperation across the rural Midwest. In this episode, he joins Straight White American, Jesus to talk about his new memoir, On Fire for God: Fear, Shame, Poverty, and the Making of the Christian Right. Through his family’s story—parents who poured everything into a prosperity-gospel church, even giving dollar-for-dollar what they earned—Hesse traces how faith, trauma, and economic pressure collided in a home and a church marked by dysfunction, scandal, and exploitation. What emerges is not a caricature, but a deeply human portrait of people searching for meaning, stability, and hope in a system that ultimately consumed them.
Our conversation moves from the intimate to the national, mapping Hesse’s personal journey onto the rise of the Christian Right from the 1980s to today’s Christian nationalist movement. We talk about fear of the end times, purity culture, religious trauma, sexuality, and the long road out of evangelicalism—alongside the compassion required to reckon honestly with the people and places that shaped him. Hesse, a journalist based in Colorado, brings unflinching analysis and rare empathy to a genre crowded with deconversion stories, showing how the forces that shaped his childhood are now shaping our public square. Subscribers can stick around for an extended discussion on how his story illuminates the political and moral crises we’re living through right now.
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Hesse, On Fire for God: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/721105/on-fire-for-god-by-josiah-hesse/
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