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Is There a Red Line in SARS-CoV-2?
Jesse: I'm interested in, yeah, maybe first asking a clarifying question and then perhaps a more substantive question. But going back to this, Jesse, there is this regulation or laws around 15 particular pathogens that you should at least not do a certain defined set of experiments on. There also seems to be this broader set of interventions against potentially dual use or gain a function of research. That's maybe more driven by social norms around publishing, pre-prints, funding, whatever else. Joshua: What are actual intervention points that you can do here? Maybe including particularly useful ones that don't just fall within legal and regulatory capacity.