We use artwork for maths tables. So if you get them to make up stories, so six eights are 48. They just have to go all sticks in a gate. After a few times, of course, they don't need their story anymore. But reeling off, once one is one, two, two, 2 is a four actually,. It's saying your table. And we've got a couple of schools that are doing that all the time now. Yeah. I wanted to dive. No, the universities will say they're all in favour of interdisciplinary studies. They just don't create any positions that are truly interdisciplinary. Because budgets have to go by departments. Like there

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