There's an interesting conversation recently about organizations and actually hiring whether you have to hire vegans in the movement. Do you think there's risk in opening the movement up to that? I'm less concerned about professional people working in the movement, my guess is like most of those people are probably going to be vegan. And if they don't, if they're hired when they're not vegan, they'll often become vegan very quickly. That seems less relevant to me than people who might consider themselves like an animal activist or part of the animal movement generally. The crux of the issue is for everyone to feel comfortable like, oh yeah, this person's part of the team. What is the

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