Well, i remember when you first brought it up to me, i first went to just like, the legal implications of what happens when somebody brings up same thing, like something that can happen in hypnosis or other types of therapy, when a repressed memory comes up. What do you do without legally but then you even mentioned the beginning while you were talking about iatrogenic concerns. And for those who don't know, tro nicis essentially something harmful that happens from a treatment of some sort. So you go in to get better, let's say, ostensibly for your anxiety and depression, and then you have one of these experiences, and the thing that you find out in the experience actually does more harm. And so that's an entire another part of thi story. But as you discuss in the paper, the the person undergoing that is left with the conundrum of, did this terrible thing i just experience actually en, is this true? And that may be an entire another section of just the not knowing can have its own complications. And so i love that your framework addresses how to work with those who just can't settle with the unknowing. And we will get into all that. I love the framework, but let's start by talking about some of the examples that you brought up. The first example that you brought up was somebody who was in a clinical trial for sillis ibon. That was the the silis ibon for depressi trials. Can you talk a little bit about what that person experienced, and and how they kind of were processing and dealing with the uncertainty of what they thought they had found out?

Yes, this this was one of the participants in the study, a imperial study, i think, the first sen for thepression study. A and emember the that especially rottling, what came to us with this case. Nenoteto, the meetings that we had just presented like this canundrum ser but essentially it deals with a, he was a a participant who, during his sicadeli experience, it was very, very interesting to read the transcript of of his recollection, because during the actual trip, he felt that he was being smothered by a being, and first he identified as his father, and then as his mother, right when he was a baby, like smothered with a pillowa. And as the interview of integration sessions, you know, as they go att the patient was increasingly recollecting how a thethowas ta com like a very he was very unsure on whether or not that was real or not. The things that during the session, it felt absolutely real, right? And this is, this is this noetic quality sort of thing that we mention in the paper, is that when people have visions during a pycadilic experience and also during, you know, other cand of, like what they calld mystical type experiences, thes visions justtey, just come to people. They feel unmediated. And because there is no mediation, they have a sort of authority to them. They feel extremely true to this. You add that the element that is is a very visual experience, is very sensorial. Psychodelic experiences are immersive experiences, wy, so they have that sort of realnest quality to them. So it felt very real to him. And, and you can see in the interview process, like he is going back and forth between, what's is some sort of metaphor about being smothered as i was growing up, if you will, right? You know, wer protected and so on, or was this an actual form of smothering that i went through when i was going out? And, you know, you you can feel in the patient some form of struggle. Ofi, i just need to know what happened, right? But his mother has, had died, so there was absolutely no to confirm any of that. Ah, so that, so, that's, that was the first one. In the end, youto see that he does reach some form of resolution in the form of cando, like, not knownr leaving it lightly somehow. But, but, ye, it was that that was the complication in the clinical case that we presented, which was extremely straightforward. Ah, but very useful to understand these canfishes.