The Importance of Humor in a Social Situation

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"It does feel weird part of the reason I left Ireland was because I was like I need to be around other black people," she says. "I could not understand why these people talked about their children like they were like these little gods that no where was where I come from you insult your children like that yeah this video over here" It took her a decade at least to master British social conventions, but it's all worth it in the end according to O'Shea.

Welcome to the Wintering Sessions with Katherine May.

Producer Note: You'll notice a slight change in Katherine's audio in the second half of the podcast. This is just due to a necessary 'source switch', where we had to change where her recording was coming from. Your ears will adjust very quickly but apologies for the ever so slight dip. Thank you!

This week Katherine talks to Emma Dabiri, author of Don’t Touch My Hair and What White People Can Do Next.

What begins as a conversation about Emma’s new-found commitment to appreciating all the seasons - not just summer - becomes something else entirely. Emma is one of our most agile thinkers and fearless speakers, and soon she is talking about everything from race and class to how we should think about the world right now. A thread of belonging runs through it all - how we seek and find it, how complicated our identities have become, and why it matters.

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