I think there's a spectrum. And I think at one end of the spectrum is fish, right? Fish is like the most benign, maybe even beneficial. Even then some plant foods, by the way,. So fish seems pretty good. Next to fish is chicken. I think if you look at the epidemiological evidence, chicken actually isn't that far away from fish in terms of reduction in heart disease risk. It's not associated with it's pretty good as far as the association with with disease. And then I think you get into stuff like pork and maybe even then beef. My understanding, but the more I look at this, the more I'm a little bit confused about the evidence