Ball G Inc, basically is a small group of highly aligned people who are trying to build the first network state. Do you expect or intending or even hoping that you will also be the founder of that network state that gets created? Like, are you trying to also start your own or are you just trying to encourage other people to start theirs? "There's like a value to the decentralization where there's a vector sum," he says. 'The idea plus capital guy is worth quite a bit'

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