"I've become really intrigued by recovery as a better term to be talking about when we start to talk about health and healthcare," he says. "It feels to me that in a country that's spending four point three trillion dollars on health care, those agencies that are focused on recovery shouldn't just be existing on bake sales and gaitlets,. Right? What they do, which is so significant for health, you know, delivering recovery services should be considered like a really significant part of health care."

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