If you want to hear more episodes of How They Made Each Other, just text the code love to 33777. We're working on making a full season of the show, but we need your help to make it happen. One of the things that all those conditions has is in common, it's perfectionism, perfectionistic thinking. And one of the kind of academic technical definitions of perfectionism is somebody that has unusually high expectations for success and it's got to kind of repeatedly fail to hit those markers for success. So they continue and you think that they're a loser and they're a failure.