Trade Up Your Business, Right?

Show notes:
Links:
Snohomish Centennial trail
Indie Hackers AMA
Intro CRM

Full transcript:
Starr:
All right. Welcome back. Welcome back, everybody. So we took a little break. We're going to have her hot vax summer, but that-

Josh:
Hot vax summer.

Starr:
It turns out that was the mirage. It turns out that was a mirage.

Josh:
Well, it did reach 112 degrees in Portland. So it was hot.

Starr:
There you go. Yeah. The summer never existed. It was just an illusion caused by our overwhelming thirst for lots of things.

Josh:
Mirage.

Ben:
Well, there were a couple of weeks there that I thought, "Yeah. This is going to work out. And then Delta.

Starr:
Yeah. It was a couple of nice weeks, wouldn't it?

Ben:
Yeah. It was. It was.

Starr:
Except for the panic about, "Oh, crap. I need to learn how to deal with people again."

Josh:
Wouldn't it be wonderful when we can just look back on those two weeks and just remember those last good two weeks?

Ben:
Yeah. Went 112 in Portland. That's pretty bad. It got to 116 in my garage.

Starr:
Yeah.

Ben:
It's pretty warm.

Josh:
Yeah. That's like melt some things if you're not careful.

Ben:
I did not know this until well, at the beginning of the pandemic, that there was actually a special class of freezer called the garage freezer because at the beginning of the pandemic I wanted to have a freezer in my garage. I'm like, "Okay. I'm just going to go to Home Depot and buy a freezer." Oh, no, no, no, no. You can't just buy a freezer to put in your garage. You have to have a garage freezer to put it in your garage. So we have a garage freezer and even with 116 in the garage, the stuff stayed frozen. So I guess it actually works.

Josh:
Nice. Yeah. My freezer survived as well.

Starr:
I mean, not having a garage freezer in your garage is almost as bad as wearing white after labor day, or is it before labor day? I forget.

Josh:
I don't know. I never wear white.

Starr:
I just don't wear white.

Josh:
Yeah.

Starr:
Yeah.

Starr:
Stains too easily.

Josh:
I just always dress like I'm going to a funeral.

Starr:
All right. So today's going to be a little bit of a short episode. So we should probably get to the content.

Ben:
I thought we were already in the content.

Starr:
I know our reader.

Josh:
Yeah. It might be short. I don't know.

Starr:
Oh, we are?

Josh:
Our podcasts tend to have a mind of their own.

Ben:
That's true.

Starr:
Well, that's true. But we've got this Ask Me Anything schedule.

Josh:
Oh, yeah.

Starr:
20 minutes from now.

Josh:
Well, the great thing about asynchronous ask me anything is that they're asynchronous so you can post them even while you're on a podcast and answer the questions whenever you want.

Starr:
Yeah. Maybe you can, but my brain does not work that way.

Josh:
Oh, I've got it all queued up.

Starr:
I've got a one track mind.

Josh:
It's just a button press. We're locked and loaded.

Starr:
Oh, you're like Kramer. You've got the button.

Josh:
No. I'm ready to go.

Starr:
Sell sell sell!

Josh:
So yeah. At 10:30, we're recording this podcast. It's 10:08 right now. Pacific. And we're going to be doing an ask me anything AMA on the indie hackers forums.

Starr:
Yes. And it's a last minute affair as of 20 minutes ago. I didn't have an indie hackers invite code. We're running around scrambling.

Josh:
Yeah.

Starr:
Yeah. Ben wanted to try a new podcast recording software, and I'm just like, "No. I can't handle this amount of change in my life right now."

Josh:
We need to title this episode, live from the indie hackers backstage, by the way.

Josh:
[crosstalk]

Starr:
Oh, yeah. I don't know if you like a live album.

Josh:
Yeah.

Starr:
Okay.

Josh:
We're doing it live.

Starr:
Well, so Ben suggested, when you talk about one work thing and one vacation thing we did. And I guess, I'll start because I didn't actually have a vacation. I just got sick a lot, which I didn't get COVID, but there was some sort of bug that was going around and I got it and I was out for a couple of weeks. And so I guess that was my vacation. I don't know. I just played a lot of Diablo III.

Josh:
That's cool.

Starr:
Yeah.

Ben:
We got our worst vacations in Diablo III.

Josh:
Yeah. We got away for a few days. We went to this lake up north of Spokane in Washington and just five nights or something. But on the trip there, we're looking at our friends who were already up there, sent us the fire map of Washington. And we are traveling, literally our destination is in the middle of six fires.

Starr:
Oh no.

Josh:
We're like, "Should we be turning around?" I don't know. But it turned out all right. We breathe too much smoke the first couple of days, but it cleared up and-

Starr:
Yeah. After the first couple of days you hardly notice it.

Josh:
I only got a minor headache.

Starr:
Your nerves just die. The nerves in your lungs.

Josh:
Yeah.

Ben:
It's okay. We have good health insurance.

Josh:
I'm an ex smoker. So I'll just tack it on, it's just like adding a couple of days.

Ben:
It's like getting that upgrade package when you're buying a $30,000 car. And it's like, "What's another thousand dollars?

Josh:
Yeah. I've already got the risk.

Ben:
Yeah. I stayed closer to home. I read a bunch of books and I got out for a nice bike ride, went to the Snohomish Centennial trail. So it starts in Snohomish and it goes up through Arlington and it's rails to trail conversion. So there used to be railroad tracks there, but now it's a paved trail. And the thing that's neat though, they have a bunch of trail heads and a few of them have the recreations of the old train stations. So it's like, you can act like you're getting on board that train and actually getting on-

Josh:
Oh, that's nice. Really nice.

Ben:
Yeah.

Josh:
That's cool.

Ben:
That's a lot of fun. Let's see, a work thing that I did. It's a blur.

Josh:
Yeah.

Ben:
I probably migrated something somewhere at some point. And back-filled something-

Josh:
You were busy.

Ben:
Yeah.

Josh:
Yeah. You did a lot.

Ben:
Yeah. I can't remember what I did.

Starr:
Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of things, right? We're working with that sales consultancy, what is it? Intro CRM people?

Ben:
Yeah. Did do that.

Starr:
Have you done some outreach? You got some replies even?

Ben:
Yeah. Yeah. It's been kind of a mixed bag. So I've gotten some replies, but also the outbound stuff has not really been all that productive. So I'm questioning my life choices at this point.

Starr:
Have you had any overt hostility though?

Ben:
No overt hostility.

Starr:
Oh, you're not pushing hard enough then. You want your OH metric to be at least 10%. At least 10%, you want death threats.

Ben:
I will take that under advisem...