LeBron Versus Kobe?

LeBron did have the physical maturation that you were talking about. But he just, there's kind of a lot of flying all over the court and he didn't have the body control. So LeBron to me is actually closer to the pack of players where we're trying to sort out the top five. And I think Kobe, you can make a case that he was a valid all star level player by the end of that year.