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EP 168 Nate Hagens on Collective Futures

The Jim Rutt Show

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The American Way of Life Is Non-Negotiable

"We're still not even close to carbon neutrality. Even if we were to cut our output by 30%. You know, we still have to grow our non carbon bonds," he says. "Being energy blind means that we don't realize how utterly dependent our societies are on coal, oil and natural gas."

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