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I Don't Want to See It Changed, I Hope It Is Not Gavin
I wanted to be much more of an open dialogue where we respect each other's opinion and discuss differences. Right now, differences are almost synonymous with hostility as opposed to differences being things that we need to work out. And this is particularly relevant in the field of public health because when you have differences, it's imperative to work them out. If you have differences and then you walk away in a hostile disagreement, what suffers is the public health. That's an outcome that's not acceptable. So yes, we could have done better. We were pushing against some very strong headwinds. When we should have had tailwinds, we were having headwinds where we were trying to explain