There's a similarity between the acquisitions of indie hackers and and milk road it sounds like. The rule of two you're gonna break up twice before you before you end up getting married most likely did that i don't know if that happened for you guys but it's very very common to sort of like feel like there's no deal happening twice either because of a legal reason or a finance number that pops up. You need to discount that by maybe 50 to 90 percent he's like so what you thought these were close they’re not close, says Ballogy.