Tradeoffs: different authoritarian models

Dive into a provocative and in-depth discussion as Malcolm and Simone Collins dissect the mythos of “Hipster Hitler” and challenge the mainstream narratives around fascism, socialism, and the historical legacy of Adolf Hitler. This episode explores Hitler’s early life as a failed art student, his Bohemian lifestyle in Vienna, and the surprising parallels between his ideology and modern leftist movements.

Discover the lesser-known aspects of Hitler’s personality: his vegetarianism, animal rights advocacy, drug use, and fascination with pagan and occult symbolism. The conversation also delves into the Nazi regime’s environmentalism, anti-smoking campaigns, and the complex relationship with Christianity and Judaism.

Through sharp analysis and witty banter, Malcolm and Simone reveal how history has been rewritten, why certain figures are idolized or demonized, and what lessons can be drawn for today’s political climate. The episode concludes with a comparison to Oliver Cromwell, offering a fresh perspective on hero worship and the dangers of historical revisionism.

If you’re ready for a thought-provoking, no-holds-barred conversation that challenges conventional wisdom, this is the episode for you.

Like, comment, and subscribe for more deep dives into history, politics, and culture!Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. Today we are gonna be having an introing conversation. That’s probably going to shock you because you think I’m just memeing here or doing like shock, you know, oh, I title card baiting. But no in reality. And we have another episode on this.

Real fascism has never been tried. But I point out that what fascism actually was, was just what today we call socialism. Yeah. And that they, the, the socialists and leftists who ran the university system sort fully had to rewrite history and create this alternate government type that somehow just doesn’t exist in the world today and only existed during this one little window because we all agree that the fascist governments were bad and they don’t want us to realize that these were just socialist governments.

But the secondary thing. Is you will get individuals like Nick Fuentes and kids who grow up brainwashed on this in believing this. Right. And so then they’ll say things like, Nick Fuentes will, like, oh, Hitler may have been a bit of a pedo and he may have been a bit pagan, but like he would a cool, we’ll get into it.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Speaker: Himler [00:01:00] was a pedophile and kind of a pagan, it’s like, well, he was also really cool. So, you know, time to grow up. We’re not, we’re not children anymore. Am I right? Am I right? Am I right boys? Am I right? Let’s go.

Malcolm Collins: And I have to take a step back here and be like. What a cuck you are. Nick Hitler was the biggest, hipster, socialist art student you have ever seen in your life when you read the actual history of Hitler’s life. Hitler, if he was living today before his rise to power would have a blue hair, a handlebar mustache, and be serving you macchiatos at Starbucks.

While he talked about how much he hated the Jews, which by the way, the socialists still do. Oh yeah. And have done from beginning things

Simone Collins: just never go outta style, which

Malcolm Collins: we know what I mean. We point out, you know, the early communist leaders all [00:02:00] hated the Jews. Marks hated the Jews. Y you know, all, all these early people, none of the early, like American founding fathers hated the Jews.

You know, as we point out, Jews could vote in twice of the, the states that Catholics could vote in, in the, in the in the colony period. Like, nobody, the people who have always had a problem with the Jews. We’re the socialist and communist. And we, we do that through line there. But as I go through Hitler, to anyone who has accidentally been brainwashed into having an ounce of respect for this man, because you believed the progressive lies about who he is, this will completely transform your perception of him.

Simone Collins: Oh boy. I’m excited for this. ‘cause, yeah, I don’t know. I haven’t invested that much time in learning about. Adolf Hitler. Okay. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: So who was Hitler?

Simone Collins: Hmm.

Malcolm Collins: Hitler’s academics were poor. He flunked out of secondary school, RHA and Lynns, and later in Steyer lacking the credentials for higher pursuits. Mm-hmm. And Mein Koff, he [00:03:00] specifically blamed this on his tyrannical father s Hitler, who insisted on a practical career like a civil servant rather than art.

Cool. Hitler didn’t like this. He claimed that he underperformed intentionally as a rebellious choice uh, to force his father to relent, describing the clash of wills where his passion for freedom and independence triumphs over paternal oppression. So in Minkoff, if you, if you look at Hitler’s life, right?

He failed at everything he did in the early days. He said, I didn’t really fail. I just wasn’t applying myself because I wanted to be an artist. Mm-hmm. I wanted to be more free. Mm-hmm. I’m terrible because of my controlling father who had too many rules. Mm-hmm. First of all, does this sound like a conservative guy to you?

Does this sound like a conservative icon to you? This is a guy who complained about all the rules and just wanted to be an artist. Mm. So what did he [00:04:00] do? So, his father dies. Okay. And he basically runs off with his inheritance. Right. So he ends up dropping outta school. And then he moves to Vienna, which was like the moving to Manhattan of the time in 1907.

Oh yeah. Oh my gosh.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Vienna. Very much hipster Paradise. Yeah, paradise. I was moving in

Malcolm Collins: San Francisco or moving to Manhattan of the time period,

Simone Collins: or Austin these days. I don’t know. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: With dreams of becoming. A painter. He applied to the prestigious Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna, but was rejected twice.

First in 1907 for unfitness of painting. And again in 1908 where examiners noted his drawings lacked talent and artistic painting and suggested an architecture instead.

Simone Collins: There’s gotta be a. Market for Hitler’s paintings. Right. I know there was a, there is, and we’ll go. His diaries were famously forged by someone, but,

Malcolm Collins: but wait, like, like to, to understand the, all of the beginnings of Hitler’s life.

Mm-hmm. It was basically a bunch of people saying you should get a practical stem-like degree. And him [00:05:00] saying. I want to get a degree in the odds. I want to be an artist.

And they’re like, well, his dad was first like, well, why, why don’t you become a civil servant? They make real money. You can make things work.

No, dad, I’m gonna flunk out of school. Just despite you. He said with his that the, that era’s version of a handlebar mustache, his little hipster thing. You note that like. This was not a normal thing of the time period. We’ll get into where it came from. His, his mustache was literally that generation’s version of a hipster’s, handlebar mustache.

And and require an

Simone Collins: extra level of maintenance. Yeah. This isn’t like the low maintenance beard. This is something he Yeah. And

Malcolm Collins: people will know, by the way, which is actually really hilarious. They’ll be like, oh, Hiller was never actually a hardcore socialist, even though he repeatedly said it. And he said that that was one of the, the National

Simone Collins: Socialist party leader.

Malcolm Collins: Right. But they’ll say because he was interested in pure socialism even before that. Right. Okay. And they’ll say no, he was paid by the government to go to these rallies. Yeah. And he was paid by the government to go to the Nazi rallies as well. He went to the [00:06:00] rallies, he was interested in you know, he, he was not actually pure spying.

He just found a hack to do, be able to basically be a beat poet of that era professionally by telling the government he was betraying people, making him the ultimate hipster. But what I’m pointing out here right, is. Okay, so he goes to live this Bohemian life in Vienna. Right. Okay. Okay. Weird. There’s avant-garde ideas and intellectuals and artists.

And he, he goes there specifically and repeatedly because he refuses to do anything practical with his life or educate himself. Actually, she, the first time did he go to try to become a better artist? Yeah. Is there ever any evidence that he actually tried to improve himself or his paintings?

Simone Collins: No. No, I’m looking it up now.

I’m trying to, I I, I’ve, I’ve never actually seen any of Hitler’s paintings, so I’m looking They’re

Malcolm Collins: fine. They, they look like a normal, like kids’ paintings like, like semi competent. It’s exactly the type of arrogant fail sun you would expect. Oh,

Simone Collins: they’re, they’re, they’re sweet. They’re, they’re landscapes.

They’re, they’re very uninspired. [00:07:00] They’re boring. They’re paid by the numbers. Yeah. They, they look kind of like, what I’d expect to see is like. One of the illustrations in the middle of a book that’s about like historical.

Malcolm Collins: Okay. Okay. Hold on. No, no. It gets worse. He lived in a group house, so Oh, no, no, no.

He goes, no, he goes to Vienna. Oh, sweetie. And he crashes with his childhood buddy. August ogre? No. Oh no. In a rented room above a tailor shop. Oh. He where were we going? Forget that sounds

Simone Collins: so like. A manic, pixie dream girl. He, he

Malcolm Collins: explicitly avoided. This is so cottage

Simone Collins: core. I’m looking at more of his art.

Okay, so he is, he draws cottage core and he lives in a group house.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, so, so he explicitly avoided day like real jobs because he believed that they cramped his creative vibe, Uhhuh, and he spent his days wandering cafes and upper houses Uhhuh, soaking up the avant garde lifestyle of this ter hipster indie festival.

Oh my God. Now, now if you’re listening to any of this, you could say. [00:08:00] Huh, that sounds weird. I thought he was selling his paintings as like postcards on like the roadside. How did he have the money to live this lifestyle?

Simone Collins: How did he have the money to live this lifestyle? Well, he was burning through his inheritance.

Oh God. He was

Malcolm Collins: a literal trust fund baby. NPO baby. Oh his financial sense.

Simone Collins: Adolf Hitler net. NPO baby.

Malcolm Collins: Not even NPO baby. ‘cause he didn’t even have that much inheritance. He just burned through

Simone Collins: the

Malcolm Collins: little he had to

Simone Collins: live. Dear. Ridiculous.

Malcolm Collins: Lifestyle because he hadn’t done what his father and everyone was responsibility in his life.

Like the examiners had told him, why don’t you become an architect? You, you clearly have no talent for this.

Simone Collins: So anyway, wait is runs outta this why he went into politics ‘cause he ran outta money and couldn’t be an artist anymore.

Malcolm Collins: Well, he went into spying for the government to fund his lifestyle of hanging out at these avant-garde things, which he was doing before this.

This is important to note. He didn’t just go to these socialist meetings because he was being paid. He was already going to them, and that’s why they decided to pay him. Yeah. But anyway, to continue [00:09:00] here mm-hmm. Hit, hit rock bottom in Vienna’s underbelly, bouncing between homeless shelters and men’s hostiles while cleaning.

Artist identity described as floppy and somewhat effeminate in his youth. Keep in mind, Hitler not tough masculine. He was considered effeminate and was actually very well known for really being bad with women and becoming shy around women and having trouble talking. He is not he. He actually is like. I dubs.

I wouldn’t even say Destiny. Destiny is more Chad than Hitler.

Simone Collins: Well, I have to say that Visit Kyle is the most, it’s the gayest salute that I think exists if there is a, a gay salute, not that I have really good,

Malcolm Collins: I’ve seen their outfits. You know, there is they’re

Simone Collins: fabulous. Stop. I mean, well, that’s the problem.

Yeah. So anyway, he

Malcolm Collins: spent hours debating philosophy and politics at coffee houses. Yeah. Waiting on the Virgo Z while living the precarious anti establishment existed.

Simone Collins: Sorry. Every time is not even consistent. [00:10:00] Mispronounce burgers,

Malcolm Collins: burger, hay, bourgeoisie. Sorry, Simone. I cannot allow foreign words to grace my American tongue.

Carry on. I don’t wanna say these comedy words. It’s my favorite French comedy. Yes,

you’re on. He wants

sent a postcard gushing about Vienna’s Opera House during his first visit, by the way. So anyway, also impressive. He also also like really into like the poetry and operas of the period. I mean, this is where it’s love when people like Wagner came from, right?

Like, yeah.

Yeah.

And, and this is in part, you, you see this was early nasm. They were obsessed with elitist culture. No, they claim to be an anti-elitist force yet like your typical. Hipster socialite. They’ll complain and complain and complain about the elites who control everything. Yeah. And then they abstract the elites into this abstracted other, the Jews.

And they actually lived their entire lives trying to mimic elitist culture, IE the culture of the urban monoculture. [00:11:00] Right. That was urban Hitler. Hitler was the cockiest of cooked progressives, but we’re not done yet.

Simone Collins: Well, yeah. Okay. Wow. What,

Malcolm Collins: what did what I Fuentes mean when he called him a pedo? Yeah, so there are rumors about Hitler’s relationship with young women, particularly his niece, GLI Rabble.

She lived with him in 1925 when he was 17. Sorry, she was 17 and. 36. Whoa. Until her Unli in 1931 at the age of 23. Oh. So we don’t claim he was obsessively controlling and possibly sexually involved. However, this is unproven, but hey, even Nick Ez is saying, Hey baby. Now keep in mind this was not.

I’d even say like, I don’t, I don’t even think the guys who like, think like beings, like controlling or what, like, like being like a dominant male is cool or whatever. Mm-hmm. And like ignoring women’s ENT is cool. Even the men who are like, that are like, and it was his niece. Yeah. And, and he was an effeminate guy.

[00:12:00] Who was extremely controlling, right? Like mm-hmm. In his use. He was well attested, he was seen as very feminine. This is not the cool giga Chad. This is the creepy. We need to rescue that girl. But to continue. Where did you get the, the toothbrush mustache? So this was considered quirky in the early 19 hundreds.

No, no. It was supported from America and it was popular among the sort of hipster working class like avant-garde types. IE it was similar to like a handlebar mustache today that somebody like obsessively, very hipster it’s a high

Simone Collins: maintenance mustache. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Started cutting it that way because he earlier had a more longer mustache, but he had to cut it off during World War I so that his gas mask could fit.

And he sort of kept it on as like a like a cool, oh, I did that. I did that World War I thing. Oh. Note here, if you’re forgetting. A lot of people will note that Hitler was a vegetarian for health reasons.

Simone Collins: This is what, what, so what were the health reasons?

Malcolm Collins: Oh, that’s there, [00:13:00] there were some, but it’s mostly historical revisionism.

He was not vegetarian for health reasons. We know this because the Nazis famously were constantly pushing veganism as a core value. The reason why they have said Hitler was a vegetarian for health reasons is because they want to hide. How much his ideology looks like modern socialism outside of eating.

Oh, because he

Simone Collins: was actually just a vegetarian, you’re saying? He

Malcolm Collins: was actually just a vegetarian for ethical reasons. So to go into this, okay. By the 1930s, Hitler had adopted a mostly vegetarian diet, often preaching that meat eating was ruining civilization and pushing for plant-based rejuvenation. On society when telling story.

He despised formal banquets, not just because of his gut issue, chronic ulence and his in, in constant veggie commitment. But because they highlighted the quote unquote immense disparity between riches and poverty in quote, which he saw as a negative thing because again, he was a socialist and he hated class distinctions.

People are like, Nazism wasn’t like. It was, it was, he hated, he hated class distinctions. Now let’s talk [00:14:00] about animal welfare. The Nazis were pioneers in animal welfare, passing some of the world’s first comprehensive laws in 1933, including the bands on no section and force feeding and mistreatment of animals in films on, on public displays.

Hitler himself was a dog lover, famously devoted to his German Shepherd. Blondie and supported conversation was leaders like Herman Geral pushing anti-hunting and environmental practices. These laws targeted, quote unquote, Jewish practices like kosher slaughter, blending animal rights was antisemitism like you see today with many socialists blending, you know, antisemitism.

Was like, oh, we need to give children like more independence, therefore circumcision is bad, which is, you know, we we’re, we gotta stop circumcision, right? Mm-hmm.

And so they find ways to,

they’re like, and we know that like true conservatism is not. About the sovereignty of the individual. That’s Uhhuh culture progress.

Yeah, true. Conservatism is about the sovereignty of the family unit. The culture,

yeah. Right.

Yeah. So, so never be confused by that. Never be confused by that, because you can [00:15:00] always disintermediate a culture by leaning into that, right? Yeah. He was an anti-smoking pioneer, wanting to control people to make them healthier.

Nazis ran one of the world’s first aggressive anti-tobacco campaigns linking smoking to Oh, good for them. Racial degeneration. Racial de version. Now remember we talk about

Simone Collins: it was like white doctors that promoted smoking.

Malcolm Collins: What leftists when people are like, leftists aren’t racist. We talked about this in the other episode on this, but if you haven’t seen that one, leftists are absolutely racist.

Everyone knows leftists are racist. They just sort of converted the racial pyramid. Oh no. But

Simone Collins: save that. You’re gonna do a dedicated episode on that, right? Save it. Yeah. Yeah. But I

Malcolm Collins: wanna talk about this inverted racial pyramid. ‘cause it’s kind of funny in this context. What they’ll say when they don’t like an art is they’ll be like, this art is.

Colonizes thing, right? Mm. This, this movie has colonist vibes, like, don’t watch it, right? Like, yeah. It’s, it’s whereas the, the Hitler version of that is, oh, that leads to racial degradation.

Mm.

But they’re basically saying the same thing. Hitler actually personally funded anti-smoking research in 1941.

He [00:16:00] told his aide, tobacco is the wrath of the red man against the white man,

Simone Collins: which what I love. That’s cute.

Malcolm Collins: Blaming it as Native American revenge while, but you, if you, if you look at this through the wind of modern leftist ideology, they’ll say something like. You know, alcohol is being used to by, like intentionally, by color, keep you down.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is being used by the colonizer to keep you down, whereas, well, this or that is being used by the dude or the red man to keep you down. Right. Okay. Yes, an exact mirroring ideology, an exactly aligned ideology.

He also was a big conservationist. The Rike Nature of Protection law in 1935 was one of the world’s first natural environmental laws protecting landscapes, forest and endangered species.

It mandated impact assessments for development and promoted reforestation predominating, EPA style regulation. He also had an organic farming push. So by the way, he’s not what many people get wrong. He sounds

Simone Collins: weirdly, I, I wanna say [00:17:00] like, well, prince, no, king Charles. It, it is just like I know a

Malcolm Collins: woke n Yeah.

No, like it’s, it’s, it’s

Simone Collins: good for you, like local agriculture. Stop hurting the animals. Like, this sounds King Charles, doesn’t it? Yeah. But it’s,

Malcolm Collins: it’s, it’s, it’s funnier too because people act like the type of eugenics practiced by the Nazis. Mm-hmm. Is aligned with like us trying to make humanity like, like, you know, working on genetic technology that can augment human genetics, that can oh yeah.

That

Simone Collins: we’re, we’re ruining the purity of, of human. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Like they would’ve aligned perfectly with Hitler. Hitler was actually super against using science to try to improve people. Mm-hmm. Except through. Drugs. Oh,

Simone Collins: yes. Are you gonna get onto the, I forgot to mention amphetamines. It’s also

Malcolm Collins: a druggie, but we’ll get to that in a second.

Okay. And there’s always a massive drug.

Simone Collins: Hold on, lemme get a bottle for him. You can keep talking though. I’ll, I’ll, I’ll rejoin it. Just, I just have to get a bottle go

Malcolm Collins: for, it’ll be right back. So anyway so he had an [00:18:00] organic farming push under the Richard Weisel Door Ministry of Agriculture.

The regime subsidized biodynamic agriculture banned some chemical fertilizers and aimed for self-sufficiency to avoid quote unquote foreign poisons. This aligned with the volk movements idolizing rural pre-industrial life. So yeah, he was pro. Moving back, scientific advancement, not moving forward.

Scientific advancement outside of his own drug habit, which he wanted to get everyone on, but we’ll get onto that in a second. The people have sort of over focused on a few, you could basically call them rogue pseudo scientists that were really more sort of the, sort of less just pseudoscience that like the CIA got into.

In the 1950s when they started trying to do, like staring at goats and stuff like that. Sorry, they were not actually mad geneticists. They were, yeah, I think a lot closer to like the staring at Project Stargate and stuff like that in the CIA the, the types of crazy human [00:19:00] experiments that they were doing, they were.

Pointless human experiments. They were not actually about improving humans because the science did not want to do that through medical technology. They thought it is bad. They wanted to reach a pure, more ancestral form of human very similar to the people who are like, society was better before the colonists came.

You know, and they destroyed everything. And we need to go back to that pre-colonial lifestyle when they’re like, we need to go back to this pre jish lifestyle. And what’s funny is they even in many ways. Mimic. You know, there was the Smithsonian pamphlet and there’s been the recent video now of like this famous black activist who was like, logic is anti-black.

Simone Collins: Right? Oh my gosh, I forgot about that.

Entire concept of logic is anti-black. But let’s zoom out for some context. Western philosophy built its idea of reason by defining who wasn’t rational to be logical meant being European male and civilized. It’s everything blackness was imagined. Not to be, but that’s why Afro pessimists [00:20:00] and Decolonial thinkers argue that colonialism didn’t just seize land.

It seized the right to define truth itself. So when I say logic is anti-black, I mean the very rules of logic were written from an imperialistic point of view.

So to think freely, we need to rebuild reason itself from the ground up.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Logic is a colonialist idea. Science is like a colonialist idea, and we move to like black science, we didn. The Nazis did all of this. They, that’s the main reason they couldn’t invent a nuke. They got rid of all their Jewish scientists and they were like, oh, all of these ideas are Jewish ideas, science.

Simone Collins: That sounds a little Jew.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. So we need to come up with a non-Jewish form of science. Oh, we need to come up with non-Jewish ideas of physics. We need to come up with none. It was exactly mirroring this colonial stuff. And in the process just came up with a bunch of dumb ideas. And the same way the people who try to come up with like antico.

Science do. He was literally like that level woke retarded. Okay. Like, not even like [00:21:00] surface level. But anyway so, so you might think, oh, come on E How woke was he? In 1942 per table talk transcripts, he said, we shall have to develop a technique for depopulating cities. Nature always must be the model.

Simone Collins: Oh

Malcolm Collins: my. He was about depopulation as well. Now note here that specifically he meant depopulating cities while expanding to a more rural lifestyle. But eat thick here. Eat suck. Hippie communes here. People. By the way, you’re wondering how pro like animal rights were they? Yeah. Coring once interrupted a meeting to save a beetle crawling across the table.

Ooh. Declaring even the smallest creature has its place in the great scheme of sayings, except Jews. Yeah, they were really, they, they, and people could be like, what? But didn’t he torture and kill lots of Jewish people? And it’s like, yeah. And you know, this is happening in these woke Antifa meetings. They would torture and kill Jewish people if they could.

Right. But they, and they, they will, they will randomly [00:22:00] go out and attack people and people. If you tell AI this, it absolutely like cannot handle the fact that the left is anti-Semitic faction in American politics right now. It has a much larger anti-Semitic faction that goes much further than the right’s anti-Semitic faction.

If you look at like Jews, like actually like having to run away from people chasing them on campus, there isn’t a single instance of that happening with writing. Not a single one, right? If you look at the multiple Jewish people who have been shot and killed in the United States or lit on fire alive in the United States, there have been multiple anti-Semitic murders in the past, like two years.

Not one of them was done by a right-leaning individual. This is a predominantly leftist thing now. I am sorry, ai. I’m sorry you don’t like, you cannot handle the fact that pretty much all of the founding fathers of Marxism and communism and socialism hated the Jews and none of the founding Fathers of America did.

And that if you go through till today, it’s still an anti leftist thing. And when you go to the past and you try to say things, [00:23:00] well, the KKK was a rightist organization who supported the Democrats. It, it’s a party switch and you can do any sort of objective analysis of this. And it’s like a few. Parts of the party switched, but no, predominantly the parties did not switch.

The left has always been the party of antisemitism. Mm-hmm. But anyway, to continue

mm-hmm.

The blood and soil ideology. Mm-hmm. If you’re, if you’re not familiar, was it was this ideology of, we need to go back to this, this, this sort of peasantry natural connection with the land where we do natural farming without chemicals, without genetic technology, without anything like that.

Meanwhile, what’s the US doing in its propaganda while the Germans are like, we need to go back to a more ancestral way of doing things. We need to go back to a more pure way of doing things. The US is saying Captain America. That’s it. The avatar of anti-Nazi propaganda, which is a human literally augmented with science to be like better, it’s track faster and stronger.

Right. Okay. If you’re wondering how many, how many nature reserves they created, by the way, they created over 500 nature reserves with covering over a thousand square [00:24:00] kilometers by 1945. And, but anyway oh, by the way, you wanna know like, what, what sort of a guy Hitler was? Mr. Mega Chad Hitler anecdotes from his inner circle describe him as being so sensitive that during movie screenings featuring an mistreatment, he’d have to cover his eyes or leave the room.

So, you know, I, I wouldn’t say that. I mean, that’s

Simone Collins: mean and babies. I, I get it, man. That is

Malcolm Collins: mean. Babies, you get it. But I’m saying he’s not the giga chat, right? Now if you’re like, well, at least he was a strong Christian. Well, remember how Nick Fuentes said that he wasn’t really that Christian, and anyone who has studied him knows this.

He wasn’t particularly Christian. He might have even been considered an anti-Christian. Hitler’s an anti-Christian. What, how Well we’ll get started here and this is where I need to do that. Like base camp. Everybody knows the base camp. Dun, dun dun. Mm-hmm. What religion was he raised?

Simone Collins: Chris. I’m just saying

Malcolm Collins: they show up an awful lot.

When, when naughty things are going down

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Malcolm Collins: Catholic. Oh,

Simone Collins: oh.

Malcolm Collins: Anyway, so, so, he paid lip service to Christianity in public speeches like where he claimed to be doing quote unquote the Lord’s work, and even signed a concordant with the Vatican, of course, in 1933 to keep the church neutral. But privately he scorned organized Christianity as, quote unquote weak and Jewish influence.

So he sought Christianity and the reason he didn’t wanna be a, a Christian. He saw it as too Jewish which makes sense. It’s pretty Jewish. I mean, it’s a descendant religion and then a related religion to Judaism favoring more deistic or pantheistic beliefs where quote unquote providence or nature equated a higher power.

No, of course the left would do anything to hide this from you. ‘cause it would make it clear that he was far more just a stereotypical leftist than you would think. But Hitler was dedicated to, like, when he would say christiany things, it was clearly just to stay in power or not to alert red flags. But if you look at the [00:26:00] statues he was putting up, if you look at the words that he wrote or his white ideology, he believed that there was a pre-Christian sort of true German religion.

That he wanted to reinvigorate, and you can see this in the plays that he championed in the statues he put up, that were often pagan in nature.

Malcolm Collins: The Nazi regime included pagan elements drawing from the VULs FA movements that romanticize pre-Christian German myths. Think ruins, swastikas and agency system co-opted from Indio, European paganism solstice celebrations and SS rituals under er kimler who promoted neopagan oc cultism like armies society’s quest for Arian artifacts.

Wow. Now

remember they have all this occulus stuff you had, right? Which Hitler promoted. He wasn’t like that deeply into it himself, but he promoted, but he, the, you know, the swastika was literally chosen from, god, what’s the movement called? We have other episodes where we go into this in more detail.

If you want to dive deep on this topic, we did an episode on the [00:27:00] surprisingly recent origins of the Wiccan and Pagan movements. , But specifically a lot of this stuff was sparked by a woman called, , Helen Petrov Blaske, a Russian Occulus in the founder of the Theosophical Society. The Theosophical Society used a swastika.

Within their logo, and they saw it as symbolizing Thor hammer or the hammer of creation. , And, , and so you can understand why, you know, if Hitler was a, the author. Kiss and there was a far oph called like German oph. We go into it in that episode. , But anyway, this was the society that ended up spawning the hermetic order of the Golden Dawn that ended up inspiring, , Alistair Crowley.

And that when you look at the founder of wicca, , Gerald Gardner, they, they credit the theosophical society specifically as being their inspiration in a lot of the Wiccan practices and symbolism. Came directly from the theosophical Society. , So while, , wicca didn’t exist [00:28:00] at the time of Hitler, he was the closest thing to that, like , this logo, , the banner that the Nazi war machine marched under was that generation’s closest thing because it was marching under the banner of the theosophical Society to be marching under the banner of wicca.

, He was the most hipster of hipsters.

But it was that movement that that crazy lady who went to India and basically founded the modern new ageism like, like new age religious movements was founded by this lady. I’ll edit it. Impose that makes sense. Any new age movement that you’re aware of? Whether it’s the modern pagan movement is descendant of her ideology.

The, the, when I say the people who say like, I’m Pagan or whatever, the modern Wiccan movement is descendant of this ideology. Oh my God. And this was the ideology that Hitler respected so much that instead of choosing a Christian sign to be the on the Nazi banner, he chose their key sign. So Hitler was not just a.

Coffee going [00:29:00] druggie. Their generation’s version of a bura failed art student who caught his dad with over controlling, who refused to get a real job who was an animal lover and a vegetarian and a socialist who loved nature but in it was effeminate. But in addition. To all of that. The, he was a, a proto wicked.

He was like an actual wicked. That sign that the n the Nazis use on their flag was that generation’s version of the wicken symbol. Like that is what they represented. Nuns are cool boys. So let’s talk about his drug habits, right? You wanted to get into this and I still, I

Simone Collins: haven’t finished it, but like great read blitzed.

The book very interesting.

Malcolm Collins: So a amphetamines yeah. Hitler got daily injections up to 20 times a day. Yeah. By 1944 to 1945 for quote unquote alertness during speeches and [00:30:00] meetings per written was widespread in the white mark. Two fueling Britt’s invasions, cocaine applied. His eye dropped or sniffed his sinus issues.

Morale noted using typical multiple times a day

Simone Collins: opioids. But to be fair. What, what’s pointed out in Blitzed the book was it as, especially in Germany around that time, like as he was growing up? This was just super widespread. It was like, you have postpartum depression, amphetamines, like everything. It was just like, if you feel a little bored, you feel a little tired.

Like he was,

Malcolm Collins: he, no, he, he definitely pushed this stuff on the top because he

Simone Collins: developed a dependency. And then he just needed more. Well, that didn’t mean he needed to give it to all his troops and get them all

Malcolm Collins: addicted. Well,

Simone Collins: it was so effective, but it was also just like, it was the wonder drug, you know?

But like, anyway, carry on.

Malcolm Collins: So, opioids. For pain and gastrointestinal problems, he became dependent leading to his constant paranoia and tremors, in part, contributing to it at least. And he also took testosterone for libido, libido strict nine in small doses as a stimuli, barbiturates for sleep, and even [00:31:00] bull semen extracts.

He, he also took the vimium pills, which contained meth and caffeine.

Simone Collins: Really puts a pep in your step and

Malcolm Collins: everything he did, if you look at his entire ideology, it’s about. Like you actually look at his ideology. Mm-hmm. It’s about saying, look at our people, as you see was like the BLM movement or something.

We are poor not because of our own fault, not because, you know, we instigated a war that we lost but because of these external powers Mm uh, the Jews who are controlling everything and they’re the reason why I failed at this, or I failed at that, or it’s an antithetical of any sort of genuine right wing idea.

G. So I’m noting it’s not just that fascism was actually just socialism.

Simone Collins: Look at, look at the locus of control first and foremost. And I think the, the biggest thing that I think about when I think about at this point. Left versus right wing is right wing now is internal locus of control. Left is external and exactly.

Nazis were, it’s someone else’s fault. It’s [00:32:00] not my fault. Blame someone else. And if that is I, yeah, that’s antithetical why believe’s anti

Malcolm Collins: to Right Nick, which is fundamentally left wing ideologues. Mm-hmm. His entire ideology and everything downstream of it is left wing to it. Yeah. If

Simone Collins: you’re blaming someone else, you’re, by our definition, at least left wing.

Malcolm Collins: Well, you’re never gonna fix anything. You know, you’re never gonna actually, you know, if you, if you don’t take responsibility for your own people’s problems, that also

Simone Collins: means that your policy center a lot around taking someone else down or taking from someone else. And I think that that’s just so. It’s, it’s not only a not viable long-term solution, but really damaging to even the party that wants to eng like, what’s the word?

Ingratiate itself.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And I’ll, and I’ll note here that when AI will, will go over something like this and it’ll be like, oh, well, no, no, no. Fascism was different from, you know, communism because, you know, they, they allowed for. You know, some rich people and they technically [00:33:00] didn’t want to redistribute everything.

They wanted to redistribute it in terms of the goals of the state. And I’m like or rather the state’s ideology. And I’m like, how is that not like modern progressivism. Mm-hmm. Like they literally are using the state to try to push their trans ideology to try to push their urban monoculture ideology, their conception of gender, their conception of this stuff onto youth.

Yeah. Right. Like they’re taking. My tax dollars. And you like Zhan. Ani recently wanted to fund you know, gender transition of children using something like $43 million of tax dollars to, to subsidize this. Like this

Simone Collins: is even now, even after trans has jumped the shark.

Malcolm Collins: Really? Yeah. Well, the, the, the extremists are the extremists.

But the point I’m making here is that this is what’s happening now. You know, this is what’s happening when they freak out, when USAID closed, what was USAID doing? But pushing. Ideologies, look at the programs they were closing, right? Like the modern left is about doing that. And I’d also point out if they’re like, well, yeah, but he tried to recreate class struggle into like a racial ethnic struggle.

Is that not what the colonizer, anti [00:34:00] colonizer mindset that the left has? The left has a bunch of rich people in it now. It does, it has pretty much all of the rich people in it. I think you’re looking at like a millionaire class. The vast majority of them are leftists these days. Because the left allows them to keep their companies, it allows them to keep their power.

It. Build structural modes so other people can’t compete with him. Mm-hmm. It’s exactly like fascism in that respect, right? Like it’s still nothing in common was any sort of pure form of communism. Look at the, the leaders of it, like Hassan, right? Like if he actually had a communist mindset instead of a, I wanna create a fascist world mindset, he wouldn’t be praising single totalitarian states like China, and he would be donating his money.

He’s spectacularly wealthy Nepo baby, and yet he does not. None of the wealthy leftists donate their money, as far as I’m aware in, in a meaningful context, right? They, they keep it right and they keep it because. This isn’t what they’re factually about, right. Like, at least not to the point where they have the amount of money of like a normal American it’s like, you know, Bernie [00:35:00] Sanders starts going from complaining about the millionaires to complaining about the billionaires.

When he becomes a millionaire, they never actually wanna give up any of their money. They never actually wanna, they’re using a system in the same way the fasc. Did, and it is hiding you when they say that this is about class struggle, because they don’t care about class struggle. They care about a racialist struggle.

That is, that is where all of this promotion, isn’t it more

Simone Collins: colonialist as you said?

Malcolm Collins: Well, yeah. It’s a, it’s a racialist alliance, so the same way the fascists were in alliance. Of the Germans and the Italians and the you know, you know, Japanese, those weren’t the same ethnic group, but it was a multi-ethnic alliance.

In the same way that the Wokes are an alliance of like, you know, the Vatican and the, Islamists and the Black Lives Matter movement and like the black Muslim movement and the LGBT movement and all of these groups hate each other, right? Like eventually they think that only their group can survive, but they are willing to work together in the short term.

And this is actually where we’ll do another episode where point out that at least. The one thing that actually does make fascism different than modern [00:36:00] socialism is at least they believed in cultural segregation. Hmm. Which actually has a lot of utility to it. If you’re structuring the society and the social well.

‘cause ultimately

Simone Collins: cultural segregation allows for variety, whereas cultural. Unity requires homogenization and therefore the extinguishing of all different cultures, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. One allows them to exist. The other one’s like mm-hmm. No. Well, I

Malcolm Collins: mean, even if the, even if the Italians don’t like the German way of living in the German, or I won’t say the Japanese don’t like the German way of living in, the Germans don’t like the Japanese way of living.

But they’re okay with outlying with each other. They don’t really need to worry about their kids being converted to German and Japan or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you have the. The, the, you know, Vatican operatives living alongside the Islamists, living alongside the LGBT people living alongside the, you know, mus, the, the, you know, black Muslim groups.

Like none of these groups like each other, right? Like eventually they think one day they’re gonna get rid of all the other groups, but they’re all in their mindset. Working in extreme shelters and stuff like this is obviously gonna cause issues. And we’re seeing this tension bubble [00:37:00] up. What was it? I, I saw recently something like 35% of Muslim immigrants in the uk.

Want Sharia Law to be the law of the land, right? Like, that, that means no gays anymore. Like clearly this isn’t, that means no Catholics anymore, by the way. Or, or you have to live under a unique system of your Catholic. You wouldn’t like it, mind you. Hey, but at least we can do I vf still. So, you know, Sharia law is actually, you know, probably easier for us than most Catholic inspired laws.

So, well,

Simone Collins: the, the crazy thing that I, I concluded after considering the, the. Reasoning of many Americans who have fled to Russia for cultural reasons is, is while there’s more curtailed speech in Russia, the speech that’s curtailed is not anything that they would mind. They, they, they’re not missing it. And the speech they feel they’re more free to make is stuff that’s looked down upon in the United States.

So in the end, they feel more free. This

Malcolm Collins: is actually, we should do a video on like. For us, Sharia law isn’t that bad. I would vastly prefer to live in a country with Sharia law. Yeah. Well, but like one

Simone Collins: man’s totalitarian [00:38:00] state is is another man’s. Yeah. Or like one, one man’s like free speech zone is another person’s totalitarian state.

Then Nick Point

Malcolm Collins: world where you’re living under the syllabus of errors because Sharia law is actually not that restrictive of science. Which is the thing that I care about. It just means I can’t like insult Muslim stuff. And yeah, they made stone gay people, which like I think is a moral negative. But like, I’m not gay, so it’s not relevant to me.

Whereas you know, if I was living under Nick Fuentes state, you know, no, IVF no genetic augmentation of humans. There’s cybernetic augmentation of humans, no advanced ai. Well, yeah, we would just have to leave.

Simone Collins: It’s that simple. Exactly. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Whereas, you know, in an Islamic state, just pay extra taxes, I think is the, the main thing.

And, and, and don’t, you know, cause the problem which is not to say I do not like. That a lot of European countries, they’re voluntarily flooding themselves as people who want Sharia law. I think that’s bad and they should get them out. I’m just pointing out that, you know, you gotta, you gotta be aware of you know, is, is, is it a, a scorpion or a cobra, right?

Like, I guess a seas stick, like even death. You, you

Simone Collins: gotta choose the poison that works best for [00:39:00] you. It’s all good. Anyway, this was really interesting, so I’m looking forward to those future ones too. But you kinda, wow. I mean, I, I guess I should learn more about Hitler because that was hilarious and fascinating all at the same time.

And I appreciate your looking into it. Yeah. Well, and

Malcolm Collins: keep in mind that Hitler’s narratives actually mirror the colonialist narratives very strongly when he complains about April. You mean the anti

Simone Collins: colonialist narratives?

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, the anti-colonial people. So when he complains, and this was his core narrative, there was a group of people who were puppet, mastered by the Jews.

Who got together at the Treaty of Versailles and carved up his country and his people and treated them unfairly. Does that not sound exactly like when people talk about the colonizers meeting in a room and carving up Africa? Yeah. Or carving up the Native American lands. Right. Like the It’s It’s the same narrative.

Yeah. Anyway, and it’s the same narrative that dominates Germany today, which is why you shouldn’t mourn the German people. Okay. They haven’t been able to get over this mindset. They’re probably an existential threat anyway, if they’re not the type that are willing to migrate into the United [00:40:00] States or a real country.

Simone Collins: Totally.

Malcolm Collins: Anyway,

Simone Collins: I love you so much. That was amazing.

Malcolm Collins: We’re meeting with a German news screen a few days. Oh, food tonight. We’re redoing the Turkey, which is actually the first time I’ve ever sad to be doing the last of the Turkey afterwards. And leftovers. Yeah. With the hoist and butter sauce. A great way to cook it.

Hoisin butter sauce with spicy peppers. And I am just so excited to have it again. It is a killer dish.

Simone Collins: Good. I’m looking forward to it. Maybe add

Malcolm Collins: a little bit of oyster sauce this time.

Simone Collins: Okay, will do. I love you Malcolm.

Bye.

Simone Collins: Can’t wait to do the title guard one.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Anyway.

So, ,, if you are a young edge Lord, and you’re like, oh, you just destroyed , the person who I could admire, that would scare my parents and teachers who, who do I, I target now. Perfect person for you, Oliver Cromwell. Okay. You, you still get the genocides, you still get all of the people hand wringing.

[00:41:00] But you know, instead of being desperate to be welcomed by like elite opera houses, he’s shutting them down, you know, a. Pure Christian throughout his entire life. , You know,. As Nietzsche said, weakness breeds immorality, and we see this with Hitler.

His personal weakness in relation to the Jews led him to be afraid of. Pursuing the science that they were building and perfecting, and the engineering that they were building and perfecting, and in many ways was probably the reason he lost the war, whereas Cranwell did the exact opposite. He brought Jews into England when they were previously banned so that he could use, .

Them To help smash the papa, right, , and enrich his own people. , did Hitler have kids? Nine. Oliver Cromwell had nine. , You know, a Hitler died by Unli himself. Oliver Cromwell died. , I think , of old age slash natural causes. , The, it’s, it’s just in every contrast he sort of shows up every one of [00:42:00] Hitler’s major moral failings.

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Ditch hipster Hitler. See heroes [00:45:00] with more. Young Edge, Lord, rise up. See through the deceit or your transition to clown cook will be complete.

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