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How Seth and I Extricated Ourself From the Hook of This Cycle
How did you and Seth extricate yourself from your core business? It was a shit show, like extricate. It was like some dismemberment, you know what I mean? A lot of blood. But you ended up selling the business. And this was to get yourselves off of out of the hook of this cycle. "I still kind of get nerded out designing a t-shirt"