In the sales world, every quarter you're looking at all your losses. After that first loss, i obsessed over what could i and should i have done differently in order to make sure that that ended up in the wind column. You really want somebody who's actually either been an exceptional ice who has spent a bunch of time coaching and mentoring and spinning up new people. And so when you think about that, probably would want to have somebody or still is front lines closing business.

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