How to Find the Right Talent for the Cloud

In the market, we actually see so much noise about not finding the right talent. But could you articulate for us what it means to be skilled for the cloud in particular? And how does that compare with the skills that they possess today? Yeah, so if you take a look at a lot of organizations, they've got people who've had gone and done their cloud certifications. They have some basic understanding of cloud and cloud capability. In many cases is no.