Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com.

What’s your relationship with ambition? What parts of you do you want to grow? What does success look like for you, and how has that evolved over the years? What’s your relationship with perfectionism? 

Kate Berardo is the Vice President of Leadership Development at Meta, the company formerly known as Facebook. She likes to call herself a lifelong learner, rejecting poisonous perfectionism and keeping curiosity alive. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/

Kate reads two pages from ‘Bird by Bird’ by Anne Lamott. [reading begins at 8:30] 

Hear us discuss: 

“To be interesting, be interested.” [2:10] | Being kinder to yourself: “It’s inviting to have a little bit of messiness.” [13:23] | Staying curious on a large scale. [17:29] | Finding your next evolution. [20:09]