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How lobbying works, with super-lobbyist Tony Podesta

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

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I Was a Founder Member of People for the American Way

I loved bobby kennedy too. I thought they were two unique characters in american politics, each with own way of looking at things. And so then you go on to work fra hert of every great liberal campaign that lost the presidency. You work for hubert humphrey, you work for ted kennedy, for walter mondell. Buti, i didn't feel like i had to choose between them, you know, i thought one of them would end up dropping out to the other.

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