How to Get Your First Job

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Toby: The closer you actually get to another human being that you're making something for good things will happen. You can ask more questions and dig deeper into it which you can't do when you just upload it to you. Steve: How important is the first job or just go find some work? Everyone's looking at Cassie. What are you good at? We have people that help others. Just build websites. Okay we're gonna do the hits. Oh I missed it. This is what putting the bow on this right now. Putting the bow on it. That was a great question. Thanks.

I was so delighted when at the beginning of 2017, Eric Meyer + Jeffrey Zeldman asked me if I wanted to record a live episode at my favorite design conference, An Event Apart.

Welcome to this very special episode where I felt like I needed to give a radio intro in front of a live audience! Lol, you’ll see what I mean. Thankful to my hero Chris Coyier for saving the day and pulling me out of broadcast mode, into live mode. First time for everything! I’m still in awe at my panel of bad design Avengers consisting of Cassie McDaniel, Chris Coyier, and Luke Wroblewski who each added so much value to the episode and attendees. Oh, did I mention this session took place right after “Happy Hour”? Please enjoy this very special, first-ever live broadcast of User Defender podcast!