I'd love to get your estimate of that because I don't know what people are fully aware. The Russian armed forces if you look at just army naval infantry and airborne they were used actually quite small maybe 360,000 altogether. But in general without much certainty I'm sort of throwing a dart at the board right because you don't have fidelity on us. And honestly same regarding your question on Ukrainian forces they don't know. Ukraine is a very good at keeping things secret. They're in a war why would they be revealing any of this?

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