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Matt Berninger

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

CHAPTER

How to Deal With Crowd Surfing

I like watching uncomfortable performers do nothing, you know? I find that riveting. If it feels like we're going through the motions and trying to put on the show, if it feels like, you know, Phantom of the Opera, after a while, it's a bummer. It gets scary when just like that many bodies and the crush of people. That's why I'm like, I don't know if I like doing this anymore.

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